Barbarian Sex

 

Reeder on LGBTQ campus activists: ‘They don’t want to debate what a marriage actually is. They want to silence those they cannot answer.’

Gay marriage, gay sex and all things not heterosexual is under fire in Georgetown University! Constantly the media is plagued with the argument that gay marriage should be accepted into the lives of others who may or may not care what someone else’s relationship is to another person. The Catholic Church and many extreme Christian Groups are among the people who rape the privacy of those who love whom they love without bothering anyone else. Campus activist promoting heterosexual marriage lost its funding and permission to be on campus due to their article “Defund Intolerance” (Reeder III).

One memorable comment by this Roman Catholic group is “As it [Christianity] moved north, south, east and west, it encountered barbarian tribes with barbarian cultures, including barbarian definitions of marriage and family such as bigamy and polygamy. When Christianity came, lives were changed and the structure of marriage and family was changed” (Reeder III). The statement bluntly refers students and faculty of Georgetown University as “Barbarians” or foreigners of their expectations and guidelines to “morality”.  This article, aimed at all of the college students to invoke embarrassment of their sexual orientation, shows how because religious group disagrees and does not understand another person’s view immediately uses the term barbarian. The term is used in order to tease, discriminate and make anyone a part of the LGBTQ feel there marriage is illegitimate by addressing biblical verses.

References

Reeder, Harry L. “Reeder on LGBTQ campus activists: ‘They don’t want to debate what a marriage actually is. They want to silence those they cannot answer.’.” Yellowhammer News, Yellow Hammer, 8 Nov. 2017, yellowhammernews.com/uncategorized/today-perspective-11-8-17/.

 

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Barbaric People

As described in the Herodotus readings, the use of the word “barbaric” is mostly used to describe someone or something as being different and sometimes even out of place. In the articles, “Decolonizing Judaism: Barbarism and the Return to Nativism” by Kevin Whelan and “Barbarian Virtues” by Samuel Moyn these articles also describe either someone or something being considered irrational or unsophisticated to others.

In the article, “Decolonizing Judaism: Barbarism and the Return to Nativism” by Kevin Whelan, Whelan discusses the political divides, contemporary social divisions, and political action of the Irish community. Within his article, Whelan states that the Irish are being treated as the “other”. Whelans most probable target audience would have been bothe the Irish and the English. However the argument would sympathize toward the Irish and how they were being poorly treated, while the English would be under the lens of being the ones who would judge and discriminate against the Irish because of their beliefs and customs. For example, when Whelan states, “If Enlightenment were refused, Ireland was placed outside the pale of modern civilized society, thereby consigning it once more to the realm of the irrational, barbaric, and superstitious.” This quote explains how the Irish were being forced to follow the ways and customs of the English in order to not be seen as different or strange.

In the article “Barbarian Virtues” by Samuel Moyn, Moyn also describes how regular people are being seen as being the “other”. In his article, Moyn describes how James C. Scott the author of Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States, explains that people who do not follow his diet of being paleo, which is eliminating wheat out of one’s diet, are considered barbaric. Moyns point throughout the article isn’t to criticize Scott, but to criticize how people nowadays are too eager to follow all the new trends in order to not be seen as being strange or weird. Myon states,“… accusing civilization of evil, extolling “barbarian” virtues, and telling his readers that they have had the bad luck to be born amidst the moral ruins, mesmerized by the distracting grandeur of the states that enslave them”. This quote shows to prove how Myon believes that people should not be on top of all the new trends just to be considered “acceptable” to others.

Both of these articles are similar to the way that Herodotus described barbarians in his works. In Herodotus Histories, Herodotus described Croesus as being the “other”. Herodotus explains that Croesus “.. was the first of the barbarians who had dealings with the Greeks, forcing some of them to become his tributaries, and entering into alliance with others”. This is similar to the other two articles because they all describe how someone would be considered barbaric just because they do not fit into someone’s view of an ideal person.
Works Cited

Hochberg, Gil and Shir Alon. “Decolonizing Judaism: Barbarism and the Return to Nativism.” Boundary 2, vol. 44, no. 4, Nov. 2017, pp. 179-194. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1215/01903659-4206385.

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MOYN, SAMUEL. “Barbarian Virtues.” Nation, vol. 305, no. 10, 23 Oct. 2017, pp. 27-32. EBSCOhost, ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu:2048/login?url=http://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=a9h&AN=125509296&site=ehost-live.

The ‘barbarian’ in the mirror.

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It was taught during one of our lectures, that the word ‘barbarian’ originated from the Greek word, ‘bar bar.’ It was a term they used for foreigners that didn’t speak their language, the Greeks as history portrayed, were not too keen on foreigners. As you can imagine, the word itself underwent some changes since then and now and may yet to change again. As an illustration, I will discuss two articles that mentioned the word ‘barbarian’ to decipher what it meant in that subtext.

The article, “Bow Down to the Tattooed Queen” is about the actress, Judi Dench’s role as Victoria in the saga,”Mr. Brown.”In her saga, her character became involved with a younger servant after the death of her husband. In the second addition to the saga, called “Victoria and Abdul,” she mourned the death of her Scottish lover, but was soon after involved with another servant. Her relationship with the second servant was especially controversial because of his race being Indian Muslim.  For instance, while filming the movie, they ran into some issues when a group of right wing Indian nationalist charged the set, they claimed that the movie wanted “to absolve our barbaric behavior in colonized countries.”

In the second article, “School Lunch Without Shame” was about the importance of keeping the lunch payment discrete so as not to humiliate the students that could not afford to pay. “Nationally, however, far too many school districts still employ barbaric policies under which children are openly humiliated when their parents cannot pay lunch bills”. This article was written to berate the cities or states that do no use this program.

The target audience for both these vary, for the first article, the issue regarding the first article was race. The building of the statue of Victoria was purely for the film production but the right wing Indian nationalist saw it as an act of disrespect considering that they were under the British rule. The target audience would be the film makers, actors, and any future acts. In the second article, it could be said that the target audience would be the parents, by making the parents aware of how of how their children might be feeling, it would also urge them to ensure that their children have these programs at their school.  These articles are similar in the way that they use the word ‘barbaric’, it was first used to describe the right wing Indian nationalist and then it was used as to describe an old law that no longer fits in with modern society. They are similar in the way that they are both used to describe people that are holding on to things of the past. In a way I think of the “the destiny of a man is in his soul” from Herodotus fitting of the word ‘barbarian,’ it will forever be changing based on what is the aim of the person.

Works cited:

  1. “School Lunch Without Shame.” New York Times, 8 Sept. 2017, p. A26(L). New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&it=r&id=GALE%7CA503736222&asid=3f179db234cee34f6832cf7f25307cc3. Accessed 3 Oct. 2017.
  2. Dowd, Maureen. “Bow Down To The Tattooed Queen.” New York Times, 24 Sept. 2017, p. 1(L). New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&it=r&id=GALE%7CA506142771&asid=1add9bd9ceb797a16679f774a2f87ef1. Accessed 3 Oct. 2017.

 

 

 

A No-Longer-Needed Term

In an article regarding the murder of a journalist in Mysore, India, the ‘Other’ appears to be people who use violence to solve issues. The article states that “you, the barbarian who only knows to wield violence, have no right to get provoked and respond the only way you know how to”  (Words vs. Swords, and Trolls). This suggests that this “barbarian” has responded in the only way they know how; through violence. The term regards those who look towards swords, instead of words to reach an agreement. In an article regarding the death of Steve Biko, violence is stamped as barbaric, no matter what the person who is doing it was labelled as before he/she became violent. The article hints that “it does not matter who the victim or perpetrator/aggressor is or the colour/pigmentation of the victim or perpetrator – violence is barbaric and should be abhorred by all of us” (No Justification For Acts of Violence In Our Country). It is noted that no matter whether you’re on the “good,” or “bad” side of an argument, once you prove to be violent you’re automatically “barbaric.” Both articles appeal to the same audiences; those appalled by horrific events and those looking for a change in tone. Both articles are preaching to chose words over violence at all times to insure a coherent compromise; a social value that is preached often, but not really followed by many.

Herodotus’ opens up his book on differentiating “the great and marvellous deeds done by Greeks and barbarians” (Herodotus). He also mentions Asia, “with all the various tribes of barbarians that inhibit it” (Herodotus). He has no reason to state who the “barbarians” are; they are just not Greek. Herodotus would probably not understand the two articles mentioned above, as they try to make an understanding of the use of the term “barbarian,” where Herodotus seems to have a clear idea of who he thinks they are; anyone that isn’t him! From reading Herodotus’ and the discussions we’ve had in class, a “barbarian” in Ancient Greece was a term used to differentiate the noble Greeks from everyone else. In the articles I read, and in daily modern life, the term is now used only in discussion of horrific, violent events. Today it is easy to not have to use the term “barbaric,” and is certainly not used to describe people we don’t understand.

“Words vs. Swords, and Trolls” LexiNexis. www-lexisnexis-com.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu:2048/lnacui2api/results/docview/docview.do?docLinkInd=true&risb=21_T26487660355&format=GNBFI&sort=RELEVANCE&startDocNo=1&resultsUrlKey=29_T26487660359&cisb=22_T26487660358&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=345270&docNo=1

“No Justification For Acts of Violence In Our Country” LexisNexis. http://www-lexisnexis-com.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu:2048/lnacui2api/results/docview/docview.do?docLinkInd=true&risb=21_T26487660355&format=GNBFI&sort=RELEVANCE&startDocNo=1&resultsUrlKey=29_T26487660359&cisb=22_T26487660358&treeMax=true&treeWidth=0&csi=345270&docNo=1

 

Camille, Team Diana

 

Blunt Coworkers and Unjust Solitude: Barbaric?

In the article, “Dalio Book Lays Bare Bridgewater Culture”, the word ‘barbarian’ is used in a context that describes the methods of a controversial CEO. In this article, Book has a set of principles that seemingly justifies rude behavior between his employees. He gave them a platform to freely express whatever opinions they have about each other without sugarcoating in order to promote growth within his company. Any employee reading the article would be shaken to know that he even published a book to encourage other heads of companies to adhere to his outlandish ideals. Harsh criticism makes for an uncomfortable atmosphere that would stifle even the most opinionated of employees if they knew all their coworkers would bully them after. His principles are counterproductive if everyone is too scared themselves and the ones that remain in his company knowing he runs it like this are most likely similar in character, which makes for a lack of diverse thinking. The article states, “Mr. Dalio’s critics — and there are many — say his principles offer permission to be verbally barbaric,” which emphasises how extreme his techniques are by calling them barbaric.

The article, “Evolving Attitude on Solitary for Juveniles” explains the effect solitary confinement has on young prisoners. The prison system strips these kids, some of which are even in there unjustly, of their humanity by locking them up in lone cells without contact for as long as they deem fit. The confinement is usually counterproductive being that it messes with their mind and drives them slowly insane, resulting in an increase of the behavior that put them in there. “The barbaric conditions of solitary may cause or worsen depression, paranoia and outbursts of anger that often result in even more time in isolation.” There had been actions put forth to remove this cruel form of punishment.

These situations uses barbarian in ways different to both each other and the ancient uses of it we all discussed in class, showing how in different contexts the definition changes. In the first article it uses it an exaggeration while the second article uses it to describe the despicable treatment of young prisoners. Herodotus once said “force has no place where there is need of skill” and this applies to both unique situations because their wouldn’t be the barbaric acts if they skillfully handled their issues.

 

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By: Samentha

We Turned The Bad Guys Into Barbarians?

In ancient Greek society the Greek people referred to individuals who didn’t speak their native tongue barbarians ,more specifically those of another non-Greek speaking region , simply because it sounded to them as if they were just saying just “bar -bar-bar” , according to our academic teachings . Today the meaning of the term “barbarian” has conceptualized to have an entirely different meaning and have a different connotation. In today’ media we are likely to stumble across the term “barbarian” as a conduit for expressing an inhumane or uncivilized act/person. When we hear or read the word barbarian we associate it with a negative connotation and the media is no help to these inaccurate discrepancies.
Let me put it in perspective , in the article ” ISIS Barbarians ‘Jim a martyr for freedom’ Parents proud amid anguish & rage at slay”
(New York Post , Golding , 2014) it informs us about a young journalist , James Wright Foley, who was beheaded by a middle eastern terrorist group , ISIS. Now , this group is seen as a group full of hate and cruelness because they use religion as a scapegoat to murder and torture humans for not joining forces with them, having the same religion, etc.. ISIS beheaded the young man , then posted the heading on YouTube. Many were appalled and disgusted in this behavior which resulted in deeming them the names “barbarians” in the article.For instance , “”He met the most horrific end, and it haunts me how much pain he must have been in and how cruel this method of execution is,” .The word barbarian which is simply use to describe someone who doesn’t speak Greek was converted by modern society to describe ruthlessness or someone that is cruel.
Likewise, in the article ” The Barbarians!” ( The Northlines, 2017), the text informs us of a mob from Kashmir, India who lynched a police official , Sh. Mohd Ayub Pandith. We also learn of a stream of violence towards police officers in India by the citizens who feel as if the system is against them. Once again , we inappropriately mix up savagery with the term “barbaric/barbarian”. As , expressed by the text , “A deputy superintendent of the police, Sh. Mohd Ayub Pandith was lynched by an irate mob near ” and “two policemen were killed by terrorists in Srinagar’s Hyderpora area. A police check post in Anantnag town was attacked by terrorists and one assistant sub-inspector and a police constable were killed on June 3. 11 policemen have been killed in Jammu and Kashmir in the past month.” Again , we see terrorist and “irate” acts and label them as barbarian acts even though it has nothing to do with the original translation. In fact , in the original Greek literature Herodotus it says, “For Asia , with all the various tribes of barbarians that inhabit it , is regarded by the Persians as their own; but Europe and the Greek race they look on as distinct and separate.”. In other words, anyone besides the Greeks or those with similar dialects were barbarians, like the Asians according to Herodotus.
In my final analysis , we can conclude the two articles ” ISIS Barbarians ‘Jim a martyr for freedom’ Parents proud amid anguish & rage at slay” and ” The Barbarians!” both identify the word “barbarian” with inhumanity which illuminate a negative appeal , which is far from the mother definition that mean’t those who don’t speak Greek. In modern day society we have morphed the definition into something it originally wasn’t, and the original Greek literature Herodotus proves it.

Sincerely , Samantha , Team Minerva

MLA Citations:

-“ISIS Barbarians ‘Jim a martyr for freedom’ Parents proud amid anguish & rage at slay.” New York Post [New York, NY], 21 Aug. 2014, p. 004. New York State Newspaperslogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA379415941&it=r&asid=7857ee2eb8a496c5d0c3dc6ea0321191. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

-“The Barbarians!” Northlines [Kashmir, India], 24 June 2017. Infotrac Newsstandlogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=STND&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA497067714&it=r&asid=c43f749cfef003b6b3e2520c3e760c10. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

 

Here come the Barbari… oh wait, wrong ones

There were 2 recent articles used on the New York State Newspaper Database website, using the terms ‘barbarian’ and ‘barbarians’.  The title for the first one was “Bannon is ready for #War”.  The quote that used the word was “While exiting stage far right on Friday, Mr. Bannon referred to himself as “Bannon the Barbarian” and declared that he was ‘jacked up’ and ‘ready to crush the opposition'” (Rutenberg, 2).  The second post was titled “ValueAct increases stake in Kravis’ KKR”.  The quote that had the specific word in it was “Although ValueAct and KKR are both known for rattling the cages of the companies they invest in – KKR’s tenacity, of course, was immortalized in the 1989 book “Barbarians at the Gate” – this engagement so far seems friendly.” (New York Post, 3).

Both articles have a unique way of using the word.  Each have their own person or thing they are referring to.  The article discussing Bannon uses the term to help describe Bannon, though more specifically how he describes himself.  Bannon uses the term to call himself ‘Other’ in a way.  Its sort of a self-proclaimed title.  As for the article about ValueAct, it uses it to describe how KKR was previously seen back in 1989.  For its targeted audience, I believe that both articles are very different in that matter.  For the Bannon article, I think the targeted audience is people who are into politics and are fans of Breitbart.  Breitbart is a political website that talks about daily political news, which is also where Steve Bannon works.  People who read on that website daily or are a fan of his work would like this article perhaps.  The second article about ValueAct is most likely trying to attract people who are into business and want to be involved in stock markets.  With that, the social value being shared with the public in this article is that of how the world of marketing or working in one like it can be very hectic and crazy sometimes.  It can also show how dangerous some companies can get sometimes in that area of life.  The social value however for the article about Bannon is in how he feels the need to act strongly and almost “barbaric” for the ‘#War’ that’s coming.  In doing that however, the use of the word in the Bannon article is much more relatable in our class than the ValueAct article.

With the Bannon article, him describing himself as a barbarian for a war is very war-like and battle ready, similar to that of the Greeks view of the Persians.  It can also be seen in a quote from our reading, as it says “The Persians, who had long been impatient of the Median Dominion, now that they had found a leader, were delighted to shake off the yoke.” (Herodotus, 127).  Its almost like as if he wants us to believe that he is the strongest and fiercest their is.  That if you mess with him, you are in big trouble.  The ValueAct however is referring back more so to the way in which people attack and take from people like ValueAct in a barbaric way.  That doesn’t really connect that well back to what we discussed in class.  If we focused more on how economically the Persians and “Others” attacks affected Greece financially or economically, then it could be more relatable.  This also makes it so that the use of this word is different in many ways in both articles.  For Bannon’s use of the word, it is more present tense, war like, and used to describe himself.  The ValueAct articles use of the word is more past tense, and is more so to describe an event and what happened to multiple people.  In conclusion, it can be seen that both articles have their own use of the word.  Whether it be referring back to an old piece of work or to describe ones mood, the term barbarian is still alive and well today.

  • Scott, Team Cronos

Links and MLA citation:

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“ValueAct increases stake in Kravis’ KKR.” New York Post [New York, NY], 23 Aug. 2017, p. 027. New York State Newspaperslogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA501489666&it=r&asid=3d79a5c6c4a61800fe88db37ab4c77c7. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

Rutenberg, Jim. “Bannon Is Ready For #War.” New York Times, 21 Aug. 2017, p. B1(L). New York State Newspaperslogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA501226569&it=r&asid=0815333f49223e1d13239d6539da1214. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

Barbarian Barbecue

The word ‘barbarian’ has been used for centuries in this world, referring to an uncultured or brutish person. In the terms that matters to Classics, the barbarians were what we call the ‘Others’ or those who were not a member of the Ancient Greek community. The term originates from how the Greek perceived these outsider’s language as a jumble of words sounding like: “bar, bar, bar, bar…”. Now in modern day we stick to the more brutish person definition, instead of it only referring to a stranger in our regular surroundings.

We can see the term being used frequently in news, articles, and other forms of media to describe unforgivable behavior. If we look at the article, School Lunch Without Same by the Editorial Board of the New York Times, the term “barbaric” is used in the the brutish context being discussed. The State of New York allowed for 1.1 million children to receive free or reduced lunch, which is a very good step towards giving relief to impoverished children. Though this is a positive aspect, some discrimination towards these children still exists. The Board describes some mistreatment towards children says, “Nationally, however, far too many school districts still employ barbaric policies under which children are openly humiliated when their parents cannot pay lunch bills. These shaming tactics include berating students, stamping their arms with messages like ”I need lunch money” and throwing meals into the garbage while hungry children stand by.” (Editorial Board para. 3). Here these children are being treated as the ‘Other’, seeming as they are inferior due to their economic level. The article is pinned towards a more liberal mature audience who understands the state of economics in this country. The audience should know and feel sympathy for these children and the barbaric behavior being thrown against them.

The use of “barbaric” can also be seen elsewhere in the modern media like the New York Times. An article by Andrew Ross Sorkin, Dalio Book Lays Bare Bridgewater Culture, discusses the principles and behavior of Ray Dalio, the chairman to the largest hedge fund in the world, Bridgewater Associates. The term is used when Sorkin states, “Mr. Dalio’s critics — and there are many — say his principles offer permission to be verbally barbaric, and they question whether the $160 billion firm’s success is a product of such ”radical transparency” or whether he can afford such a wide-ranging social experiment simply because the firm is so financially successful.” (Sorkin para. 16). Here it is clear how Ray Dalio’s behavior can be seen as barbaric due to his financial level giving him a “leg up”. The ‘Other’ here is anyone who is the recipient of Dalio’s behavior/principles; seemingly they must keep up with it since he is such a powerful figure so he is allowed to, in some form, act barbaric. The audience is the same as the last article, mostly aiming at an audience of a sympathizer for the economically impaired.

Both articles have a clear line showing how economic dominance allows for a barbaric atmosphere to be put upon them. Those who struggle economically, whether it be a impoverished child in NYC, or anyone in Ray Dalio’s path, can be on the receiving end of becoming the ‘Other’. In Herodotus’ History, we see the long mistreatment of the Medes, or the ‘Other’ frequently throughout the story. One section states “For, supposing that he was obliged to invest another with the kingly power, and not retain it himself, yet justice required that a Mede, rather than a Persian, should receive the dignity. Now, however, the Medes, who had been no parties to the wrong of which he complained, were made slaves instead of lords, and slaves moreover of those who till recently had been their subjects.” (Herodotus 129). Here we see how the Persian Revolt, should in some form allow a Mede to receive fair treatment, always puts them in an inferior position. This look back at the classic Greek history, allows us to observe how “barbaric” behavior has been excused, passed on, and promoted through superior positions in society. It’s almost ironic, how the definition of barbaric went from the ‘Other’ to the ‘Not Other’. Seemingly how the Greeks treated the Medes in our definition IS barbaric, yet the Medes and foreigners were the barbarians themselves. How we translate and look at this word will always twist and turn but always will see a barbarian as a cruel, brutish thing to be.

Sean Reilly, Team Artemis

CITATIONS:

Board, The Editorial. “School Lunch Without Shame.” New York Times, 8 Sept. 2017, p. A26(L). New York State Newspaperslogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA503736222&it=r&asid=3f179db234cee34f6832cf7f25307cc3. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

Sorkin, Andrew Ross. “Dalio Book Lays Bare Bridgewater Culture.” New York Times, 5 Sept. 2017, p. B1(L). New York State Newspaperslogin.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA503308278&it=r&asid=367952845a32aa7c10f8efc3ff1d8c63. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

Are you War Hungry?

Barbarian’s are considered to have a negative meaning. They are someone who doesn’t have manners, someone who is unrefined. They are the odd ball. In Greek society a barbarian was anyone who didn’t speak their language. They were called this because all the Greeks could here was “bar bar bar”.

Today people are still being regarded as barbarians, but with a slight more negative connotation. In a news article from the New York Post,  the Antifa an anti- fascist movement that are known by their militant protest attacks. They were recently called barbarians when a “peaceful” protest got out of hand. “The barbarian Antifa are genuinely contemptible, and unfortunate innocents, like the martyred Heather Heyer, sometimes find themselves on the same side of the barricades as these thugs.” This is comparable to the way  they were regarded in Herodotus. “Such was the number of the barbarians, that when they shot forth their arrows the sun would be darkened by their multitude.”They were regarded as savages that were out for blood. Something that is  comparable to another article I read. “Bannon Is Ready For #War” is about Stephen K. Bannon and his statement as he left the white house. He catogorized himself as a barbarian. Someone who was ready for “#War”.

These two articles are the same in that they both seem to put barbarians in a negative light, they both speak of barbarians as if they were a war minded people. This is also seen in Herodotus. They are in the midst of a battle and there are so many barbarians lust ing at the chance of war that they completely block out the sunlight as they rain death down upon the Greeks.

Calling Out Leftist Violence: Antifa’s Unchecked Attacks.” New York Post [New York, NY], 4 Sept. 2017, p. 018. New York State Newspapers, login.ez-

Rutenberg, Jim. “Bannon Is Ready For #War.” New York Times, 21 Aug. 2017, p. B1(L). New York State Newspapers

Barbarism Today

According to our everyday life, we can conclude that living in the United States is relatively safe and peaceful. I always questioned and still do, why educate students on ancient history and conflicts encountered throughout that era? I believe it is of our best interest to educate the students with the battles we are fighting in the current world, internally and externally.

In article one, we are given an insight on being a sex slave victim of ISIS. ISIS, a violent militant group conquering chunks of Iraq and Syria terrorizing civilians, has been a major issue in our society for years! Farida Khalaf, only 19, has fallen into the hands of Islamic Terrorists when her village, Kocho was taken over. Separated from her family and a long way from home, she is now on her own. ISIS uses the women they capture as sex slaves or even trade, but the men are usually shot and killed. The writer of the article refers to this trade as the “barbaric trade,” to grab the attention of readers to such outrageous and sickening topic. As she shares her experience being imprisoned, I realized that this is a cry for help, for the slave trade that many people still do not acknowledge. In Herodotus, Cyrus has second thoughts of killing Croesus, until a divine warning stretched into his mind from the lips of Solon, “No one while he lives is happy.” It similarly relates to the victims of ISIS or soon to be victims because they won’t find peace or happiness until a community as strong as ours does something to prevent it.

“In a radio interview with LBC, the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Cressida Dick, called the attacks barbaric,” referring to the acid attack. According to article two, these attacks have caused severe damages to the victims; in fact, it is an ongoing issue in the city of London. There were many incidents, particularly, the two Muslim women in London that were badly burnt by a white man who attacked them with acid, splashing it on their faces. This specific attack interests me to a certain extent. I believe this attack was hate-motivated. With all the terrorism taking place in our world today, especially when Muslims are to blame, it points at the xenophobia that is still alive in many people.

Citations:

(1) “My Hell as an ISIS Sex Slave Iraq Girl Relives Evils of Fiends’ Barbaric Trade.” New York Post , 17 July 2017.

(2) Rod Nordland. “Men on Scooter in London Throw Acid in the Faces of 5 People .” The New York Times , 15 July 2017.

-Amirjon, Team Juno

The dramatic change of the usage of “barbarian” and “barbaric” over the centuries

The term “Barbarian” has evolved in the past thousand years; the word was first used as someone not associated with the Greek’s language, such as the Gauls, European tribes, and civilizations outside of Greece in the Middle East, such as Egyptians and Persians, since the Greek’s could not understand their language and thought they were speaking oddly (“bar, bar, bar”). The word was changed by the Roman’s when it became used a term to describe people who were not cultured of Roman and Greek traditions such as the many tribes that threatened Rome’s borders. In today’s culture, the term “barbarian” now refers to those who are uncivilized and commit horrific or cruel atrocities. The term “barbarian” has radically changed from once referring to those who did not speak of the Greek language to those to commit horrifying and inhumane acts.
In today’s media, a “barbarian” could be used as someone who has either committed heinous or inhumane acts or someone who metaphorically commits “barbaric” ideas. For example, an article written by The New York Times delves into the different moral views on statues in today’s society. In the article, one of the opinions talked about were the “barbaric examples of the Taliban and ISIS, whose practice it has been to destroy relics of the past”. The word “barbaric” is used in the context of an act deemed cruel and sadist, defining that these groups are deemed “barbarians” in this contextualization. The “other” in this article are shown as the terrorist groups ISIS and the Taliban, showing that the target audience is the populations outside of the countries and areas the terrorist groups occupy in. The social value that is being demonstrated as a shared value to the target audience is that acts like these (which are far more horrific) hinder icons of the past and that culture should be preserved (a topic that is hard to tackle and is a complicated topic for me to handle on this post alone). Another example is seen once more in an article written by The New York Times that tackles the views on solitary measures for juveniles in modern society. In the article, the writer goes into depth on how the conditions given to juveniles only worsen their psyche and that “the barbaric conditions of solitary may cause or worsen depression, paranoia and outbursts of anger that often result in even more time in isolation”. The writer also adds that “more than half of suicides in juvenile justice facilities take place when the young person is alone.” The word “barbaric” in the article is used in the context as a horrific and inhumane way of life for juveniles in solitary; the “barbaric” conditions are used as a psychological act instead of a physical act. The “other” in this article are the prisons that implemented these conditions, whereas the target audiences are those studying law and psychology, but in addition, advocates for mental health. The social value that is being shown as a shared value to the target audience is the fact that juveniles should not (or should not have been not since federal prisons no longer use solitary confinement for juveniles but still applies to others) been subjected to such “barbaric” treatments and conditions that led many to depression and even suicide. The articles’ use of the term “barbaric” are used differently from each; in the “Moral Debate Over Statues” article, “barbaric” is used to characterize the actions of ISIS and the Taliban when they destroy artifacts that meant something culturally to other people (in addition to their other horrific actions) while the term “barbaric” in the article “Evolving Attitudes on Solitary for Juveniles” is used to describe the conditions in the federal prisons that cruelly and inhumanely affected juveniles psychologically. The articles used as examples of the modern use of the words “barbaric” and “barbarian” are portrayed differently since Greek and Roman times, as previously explained in the beginning of the post, as the words “barbaric” and “barbarian” are used to demonstrate someone or something committing cruel or horrific actions. In Herodotus’s Histories, the term “barbarian” is used a word to describe civilizations outside from one’s culture. For example, Book 1, Chapter 4 reads, “For Asia, with all the various tribes of barbarians that inhabit it, is regarded by the Persians as their own; but Europe and the Greek race they look on as distinct and separate” (1.4). The terms “barbarian” and “barbaric have changed dramatically since their creation, going from people who didn’t speak the language and learn the same culture, to people who commit cruelsome and horrific atrocities.
“The Moral Debate Over Statues.” New York Times, 3 Sept. 2017, p. 8(L). New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA502860853&it=r&asid=8143318c3fc2e603d74a8e4448958dac. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.
“Evolving Attitudes on Solitary for Juveniles.” New York Times, 6 Aug. 2017, p. 8(L). New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA499943270&it=r&asid=67e9b3fe7d64ca2a87223719aa4dcc4b. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.

#NewBarbarians, #CLAS3, #Herodotus, #Bonus

-A.C. Bowman, Team Saturn

We Live In A Barbaric Society

 

The term “barbaric,” in the modern society, means to be exceedingly cruel, or savagely brutal. Many incidents transpire daily which involve barbaric acts being executed. Any act done in this manner should be disapproved of, and should be avoided through implementing strict regulations.

In the article “Saudi Arabia must do something about its Barbaric Human Rights Practices,” the author explains Saudi Arabia’s difficult situation of transition. The newly crowned Prince, Mohammed Bin Salman, intends to usher his land into a prosperous and successful era, called the “Vision 2030,” which entails building “a thriving country in which all citizens can fulfill their dreams, hopes and ambitions,” whilst being “tolerant,” and providing a “gateway to the world.” Since commencing this initiative, multiple incidents opposing these principles have emerged. Firstly, 14 Saudi men were accused and arrested with “terrorism-related offences” after allegedly staging protests in the kingdom of the Prince, countering the principle of being “tolerant” and allowing citizens to fulfill their “dreams, hopes and ambitions.” These new ideologies of the “Vision 2030” were again violated in the wrongful arrest of a Saudi blogger who advocated for a more liberal, secular and moderate country. According to authorities, these were violations of the nation’s conservative Islamic Establishment. The term “barbaric” is used in a very predominant sentence to the article, “If Saudi leaders really want to embrace modernism, they could start by reversing the barbaric death sentences imposed on 14 Shiite men for taking part in demonstrations,” meaning that the kingdom should start following the principles of the new regime in order to increase the pace of development. The “others” in this article most likely are the authorities who fail to adhere to the new regulations of the new vision. The target audience of the article are human rights advocates, and any right-minded logical person who would see that the system that is trying to be built is being hindered by the actions of the established order. This audience shares the values of recognizing a wrong act, correct administering of punishment, and tolerance in society, which ought to be done in this kingdom. This article does relate to the use of the term the Greeks used to refer to the Persians, “barbarians,” in that the Persians did instill harsh punishments over their people for small matters: “If a Persian has leprosy, he is not allowed to enter into a city, or to have dealings with other Persians; he must, they say, have sinned against the sun.” Even though the modern definition of “barbaric” does conform with the ways of the Persians in the types of treatments, it has a sort of hyperbolic meaning to that of the Greeks’ description of the Persians, in that the Greeks only thought they were barbaric due to the difference in lifestyles, and mainly speech. The word has now taken the stance of something that would not be morally acceptable.

 

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“The Persian image specifically underwent the highest degree of artistic license and the result is a stark contrast between the ugliness of the “others” against the nobility of the Greek soldiers.” – https://ndidusch.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/

 

In the article, “’Barbaric act’: World reacts to Barcelona Attack,” leaders from all around the world condemn the acts of the driver of the van who ploughed through hundreds of people on a famous tourist location in Barcelona, Spain. This dreadful event led to the demise of ten people, and the wounding of one hundred other persons, with nationalities stretching over 18 countries. Many world leaders addressed this situation, deeming this act as “revolting,” “cowardly,” and “barbaric.” In this article, the “other” being referred to is the driver of the van, who was claimed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. The target audience of this article has a wide range, which includes the families of the victims of this senseless act, the citizens of Spain, and to the victims of other terrorist acts internationally. All these people share the value of eradicating these horrendous people from society and putting a halt to the violent demonstrations. The actions of the driver do relate to the use of the term “barbaric,” used to classify the Persians by the Greeks, in that the Persians did take extreme measures to get across a point, like, said before, exiling a citizen with leprosy – “If a Persian has leprosy, he is not allowed to enter into a city, or to have dealings with other Persians; he must, they say, have sinned against the sun.” But, again, the modern-day use of this word has a more violent and somewhat evolved meaning to that of the Greek, which simply meant nothing like us.

These two articles are similar in manner to the use of the terms “barbaric” and “barbarian.” They both exhibit situations of senseless power and ill use of violence to maintain order or to carry across a point, but the contexts in which the term was used represent how much the word has evolved over time. In Greek times, it was used to describe people the Greeks didn’t know, and especially who, they said, only said “bar,” “bar,” “bar.” In conclusion, there are some similarities, but major differences, mostly due to how society has changed over time and the word’s evolved meaning.

 

Daniel, Team Diana.

 

Citations: 
  • “Saudi Arabia must do something about its barbaric human rights practices.” Washingtonpost.com, 5 Aug. 2017. Academic OneFilego.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&sw=w&u=cuny_broo39667&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA499943697&it=r&asid=dabf0a4cc3f7405288d4a31e989578eb. Accessed 11 Sept. 2017.
  • “‘Barbaric act’: World reacts to Barcelona attack.” Al Jazeera America, 18 Aug. 2017. Academic OneFilego.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&sw=w&u=cuny_broo39667&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA500927983&it=r&asid=2f937af552b410c29fc2bf5357f4d97f. Accessed 10 Sept. 2017.

The term Barbarian have changed Overtime

The term barbarian has changed over time. The term barbarian in the past was basically weird sex behavior, clothing, language was spoken, and weird opposite sex behavior. The term Barbarian was used to describe people that didn’t speak well Greek. Also, people that sound like “bar bar bar”. However, as the time passed by, the term and the definition have changed. The meaning of the word barbarian has changed to someone in the community that doesn’t belong in the great civilization or savage.

An article from the New York Times “Google Doesn’t Care What’s Best For Us” Jonathan Taplin states, “Executives were terrified that Drexel would start a raid on their companies. Politicians would seek Mr. Milken’s counsel and his money. His ”who’s going to stop me?” attitude was the perfect libertarian credo for the Reagan era of deregulation. Drexel gave us culture, too — ”Barbarians at the Gate,” ”The Bonfire of the Vanities” and Gordon Gekko in ”Wall Street” telling us that ”greed is good.” But Drexel flew too close to the sun. Mr. Milken went to prison and Drexel is no more.” In the same article Taplin states, “Somehow the citizens of the world have been left out of this discussion of our future. Because tools like Google and Facebook have become so essential and because we have almost no choice in whether to use them, we need to consider the role they play in our lives”. In this article, the ones who are being treated as “other” are the people and the children since the companies are putting those Facebook and media and forcing people to use it. I think the target audience in the article are the people since tools like facebook and google became their basic essential. Also, google is on people’s privacy on what we buy on Amazon or what we search. The social value that has been affirmed as shared value for the target audience is that not having the Drexel. Also, I think sometimes is good that google being the privacy of what we buy. It ok sometimes since people can be buying the gun or illegal items. This situation is different to a use of the word barbarian in the reading “Herodotus”. In the “Herodotus”, the role that the barbarian played was Croesus, son of Alyattes which was the lord of river Halys. And forcing people to become his tributaries. In the book it states, “So far as our knowledge goes he was the first of the barbarians who had dealings with the Greeks, forcing some of them to become his tributaries and entering into an alliance with others.”. (1.5-7: Who Really Inflicted the First Injury On the Greek)

Another article from the New York Times “Bannon Is Ready For #War” Jim Rutenberg states, “While exiting stage far right on Friday, Mr. Bannon referred to himself as ”Bannon the Barbarian” and declared that he was ”jacked up” and ready to ”crush the opposition.” In this article, the one who is being treated by “others” is the people who are watching the News because since doesn’t always give the truth. People have the different mindset of what they are watching and bring in different perspective. I think the people are the targeted audience. The article is also targeting the conservative group. The social value that is being affirmed as a share of the target audience is that people are going for anti-Trump voice. This situation is different from the reading “Herodotus” because this more about political issues that are happening in the White House.

Therefore, the Barbarian topic also connect with Art history because we learned that people who didn’t know how to speak Greek or spoke differently than they would be sound as “bar bar”. And how Greek people had short hair and messy hair but other had beard at times which wasn’t Greek.

Citation for the articles:

Mantaha Mannan, Team Vulcan

You Uncultured Swine

As we all learned in class, the word “Barbarian” comes from the Greek description of those who didn’t speak their language. Since the foreigners would sound like, “Bar, bar, bar…” they decided to classify them as such. However, over the years the meaning slightly changed. When we think of the word now, we classify it as someone who is uncivilized or a savage.

As mentioned in the first book of Herodotus’ Histories, Herodotus refers to the Persians as barbarians because they are strangers to the Greek and contrasted from the way that they looked. “For Asia, with all the various tribes of barbarians that inhabit it, is regarded by the Persians as their own; but Europe and the Greek race they look on as distinct and separate.”(Book 1 chap. 4)

“The barbarian Antifa are genuinely contemptible, and unfortunate innocents, like the martyred Heather Heyer, sometimes find themselves on the same side of the barricades as these thugs.” (Rabinovitz) In the article, Calling Out Leftist Violence: Antifa’s Unchecked Attacks, the Antifa are referred to as barbarians because they ‘violently attacked innocent people.’ The targeted audience would be the public and also the government. There are a number of people outraged about how terribly the Antifa acted and how the police just stood there watching. Everyone wants justice to be served and social order to be maintained if this happens again.

The article, Texas Abortion Restriction Is Temporarily Blocked, discusses the federal judge temporarily blocking a law against second trimester abortion. This is where the whole “morality” debate amongst people come into play. Some agree with this ruling while others, like Ken Paxton, disapprove. “The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, criticized the ruling. Marc Rylander, a spokesman for Mr. Paxton’s office, said in a statement that dilation-and-evacuation abortions were ”gruesome and inhumane, which makes it troubling that a District Court would block Texas’ lawful authority to protect the life of unborn children from such a barbaric practice.” (Astor, para. 8) He uses the word ‘barbaric’ as a synonym to ‘unlawful’ or ‘cruel’. This means that those who agree or goes through with this procedure, they too are barbaric. Just like the previous article that I mentioned, the focused article would be towards the public and the government.

Both articles about the abortion and Antifa use the word ‘barbaric’ and ‘barbarians’ to describe cruel and unlawful people. On the other hand, Herodotus uses it to classify a specific group that the Greeks were unfamiliar with. As we could see, the meaning of the word has definitely been altered throughout the years.

Ivory Tyson, Team Artemis

Astor, Maggie. “Texas Abortion Restriction Is Temporarily Blocked.” New York Times, 1 Sept. 2017, p. NA(L). New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA502626734&it=r&asid=99f3a59c2cdc1bf2d8c53660ad4c611c. Accessed 10 Sept. 2017.

“Calling Out Leftist Violence: Antifa’s Unchecked Attacks.” New York Post [New York, NY], 4 Sept. 2017, p. 018. New York State Newspapers, login.ez-proxy.brooklyn.cuny.edu/login?url=http://go.galegroup.com/ps/i.do?p=SPN.SP01&sw=w&u=nysl_me_brookcol&v=2.1&id=GALE%7CA503495233&it=r&asid=cf2456c41148968512533f5373eab1f5. Accessed 10 Sept. 2017.

Barbaric Bestial Behavior

 

    In the KCCI Des Mones news article, entitled: ‘Barbaric’ arson-homicide prompted by violent relationship,  a man is being charged with the  murder of his stepson. According to this article and the officals present in the investigation , the barbaric man allegedly set his 26- year- old son on fire, after a series of arguments and disputes. So who exactly were barbarians ? Well, barbarians were people who didn’t speak greek and were just different in terms of their culture,  Book 1, 1:4 , ( by herodoctus) gives us an insight of who the greeks considered barbarians. It states “For Asia, with all the various tribes of barbarians that inhabit it, is regarded by the Persians as their own; but Europe and the Greek race they look on as distinct and separate.” The term “barbaric”, used in this article refers to the persons actions, and is similar to the way the greeks used the word, to describe the ” strange ways ” foreign nations acted, and spoke.  The act of setting another human on fire is the “other” or like the greeks probably would say weird or strange in terms of behavior in society and is deemed barbaric because of how unusual and cruel it is . The article was generally published, for the public and most specifically the people of the county. The social value being affirmed is kindness. In the article it is said that some of the neighbors instead of just being  non active bystanders, got involved- one even brought over a fire extinguisher . The death of the young man was caused by the severity of the burns, which was said to cover 95 percent of his body. One of the police sergeants responded to the incident by saying, “It doesn’t get much more barbaric than setting someone on fire,” Parizek

In an article published by the Mirror, entitled: Inside North Korea’s barbaric prisons where inmates are starved, tortured, undergo forced abortions and dig their own graves ( quite a mouthful), the harsh conditions in which prisoners are forced to go through are discussed. The article discusses how the inmates in North Korea are deprived of food and sleep, beat regularly, forced to have abortions or perform strenuous activities that result in abortions , and many other gruesome  things. The term barbaric refers, to the horrible treatment of the prisoners and means inhumane, and differs in meaning to the greeks definition of barbaric, which again also was used to describe different or strange  culture of other places ( their language, religion…etc.,). The target audience in this article is the general public. Initially I was led to believe that the audience was only the people of North Korea, however I think this article was published  to bring world wide awareness to the situation , and to evoke change within the system.

Both articles share a central social value of social justice. They both also used the word barbaric to explain an inhumane way of treating others. However  in the first article with the guy who killed his stepson, the word barbaric was used to define the choices he made, that resulted in tragedy. It described a person characterized by their actions . Whereby the second article focused on the people who suffered as a result of  the choices other people made for them. These prisoners , lived in dreadful conditions, because of the control the government had over them.

 

Terrell, Laura. “’Barbaric’ Arson-Homicide Prompted by Violent Relationship.” KCCI, KCCI, 31 Aug. 2017, www.kcci.com/article/barbaric-arson-homicide-prompted-by-violent-relationship/12148166.

AFP), (Image: et al. “Inside North Korea’s Barbaric Jails Where Prisoners Dig Their Own Graves.” Mirror, 21 June 2017, www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/north-korea-prisons-otto-warmier-1065349

Sharifa, Team Hestia